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I was absolutely shivering and virtually hoping that things would come right and that we score four tries against the POMS and our heroes did just that.   Before I go further I need to emphasize that we should never have lost against Ireland.

Now let us look at the players and make some comments.   I was very disappointed in Kebble - he really had a poor game and the change worked in our favour.   Pollard's kicking game was not very good - but that can be corrected through good coaching.

On the other side I thought that Jordaan was brilliant and must say I was impressed with the speed of Small-Smith.    Howevr, what was really outstanding was the defence of the Junior Boks.  Despite the fact that the POMS had the majority of possession, they never managed to score a single try.

Now for the semi against Argentina.    We should be the hot pots favourites to win that one.   I think that the game between Wales and New Zealand is a toss-up, but under better playing conditions the AB's should win.   So a final between SA and New Zealand is a distinct possibility.  

Agree. I cannot understand the hype around Kebble. The centers were great and they were the major talk in the Sky studio over here, and Dewi Morris and Scott Quinnell could not stop praising them.

great second half blew the poms awayad the pommie chest beatng commentator. Hahahahahhahahaha

Mike Kebble is far too tall for a tighthead. You can get away with an extra inch or two as a loosehead but even there he looks to be too tall? As soon as he departed the scrum was solid and eventually dominant.

Jordaan is the pick of the backs although Serfontein is a very hard worker. Sapsters big pick Pat Howard look useful but no more. I liked the performance of Sephen Du Toit  the number 7. Of course the number 6 did well but being a bit small may battle in the senior ranks. Still he is a goer. Our number 15 looked very ordinary.

Speaking of ou sapster, if he really knew his rugby re the baby Boks he would have stuck with the team but after the loss to Ireland he doubted their ability.

Pleased also for Dawie Theron  - to be compared to ou pdv is really such an insult. Dawie did a great job for Griquas and should never be rediculed to that extent by the oaks.

Guess who has his forwards mixed up............................... The names seems to be a problem as well. Oliver Kebble is 1.89m. Jannie du Plessis is 1.88m. Frans Malherbe is 1.9m. Werner Kruger is 1.9m.

The tighthead is normally the taller and the loosehead the shorter of the props.

Give Kebble a break, he had a poor night as all props do. He improved the scrum in a big way against Ireland at loosehead, was dominant at 3 against Italy, but struggled tonight - shit happens, he is 19 and will learn from it. He is primarily a loosehead, so has plenty to learn at 3.

The only kid out of his depth was Booysen at 8

Beenkop, Howard hardly got the ball.

My call was to play lock Steph du Toit as a loosie, that only happened by default with the captain falling foul to injury before the game - that was luck!

Jordaan is a class act

Moenie K#k praat ou windpomp  - asselbief ek vra vir jounog n tyd!!!  The tighthead if often a bit shorter than the loosehead. It was a classical loosehead move agains tKebble to lift him. That is why Kebble is normally a loosehead. Verstaan jy nou? Also you mostly find the loosehead to be more mobile. Looking at Kebble he seems to be very tall so I have doubts about your stats as well. Certainly he is very tall as compared to his peers at prop.

Yes sapster Kebble could learn but it was very evident how a shorter prop got under him. Hence my suggestion to play him at loosehead if he is needed. Certainly our scrum improved markedly when he was replaced and was in the end dominant.

Howard has been a disappointment to me after your big write up sapster although I am now getting used to the disappointments. hahahhahahahahaha. He seems to lack a bit of fight in him. Its more a character/mental thing. Compare him to Serfonteing - he really goes for it. Howard remind me of Sadie in some ways. The question mark now over Sadie is not athletic ability but character. Sure its early days but the contrast between a Serfontein and a Howard are interesting and perhas pointers to the future?

Beenkop, I know you are stupid but dont keep showing yourself up. I only know a handful of these Bok U20's so am hardly in a position to comment on the team as a whole. You either cant read or arejust plain dumb - but thats not news is it?

Beeno1
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Posts: 1805 RE: Junior Springboks - You beauts
June 13, 2012, 09:23:33

Moenie K#k praat ou windpomp  - asselbief ek vra vir jounog n tyd!!!  The tighthead if often a bit shorter than the loosehead.

Ag jou donnerse eier. Try again.

en.allexperts.com/q/Rugby-2227/props.htm

"There really isn't too big an issue here if you are talking about an inch or two but generally the taller prop is the tight head. The Scrum needs to lead in from the tight head side so being taller helps that. The tight heads job is to stay steady and low anchoring the scrum while the loose head wants to drive the opposition tighthead up so his hooker has a bigger hole to work in. This all reversed while in a defensive scrum."

www.betterrugbycoaching.com/Article-491-205-Rugby-Drills-and-Player-Skills-Position-and-Unit-Skills-Role-of-the-props#

"The tight-head is stronger, a better scrummager and likely to be the bigger of the two props. He is the cornerstone of the front row and the scrum. He must take pride in this role first and foremost, and be prepared to confront the opposition.

The tight-head should be the more technical player, especially since he is up against two players, not one."

Verstaan jy nou?

Ag man man ou windpomp jy is die pits vir seker!! Look everyone including even sapster should know the tighthead is the stronger and has to scrum against two!!!!!! Hahahahahahaha I suppose that was new to you windpomp you being the sole exception!!

To stop a loosehead getting underneath a tight head (As happened with Kebble) the tighthead benefits from being shorter. Do not confuse shorter to mean he has to be lighter. Tighheads are built like tanks and have short knecks etc.

I suggested Harris would make a better loosehead given he is not quite as strong as Malherbe and also because of his mobility and skills outside the scrum which could be better utilised

Lesson 101 over.

As for the sapster thanks for your honest and very polite reply. I had assumed you were a guru re young players for some mistaken reason. I say politeness as it sure beats the F/off you gave to Bar and Haw. I was amazed that Haw didn't ban you - but he says he doesn't want to ban anyone these days. Hahhahahahahaha what a change of approach!  I think he/they now realise the error of their ways re bannings and choice of bannings. Maar baasop ou sapster the guillotine could still be poised!  A leopard doesn't change his spots?

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